Honestly Unorthodox. with Kayla Perry

The show discusses the age of self-censorship and how it affects our careers as clinicians, specifically clinicians that work with vulnerable populations. It will tie in free speech, current controversies and ‘touchy subjects’ within the practice of Applied Behavior Analysis, and the pursuit of truth as an outspoken practitioner.

Recent Episodes
  • What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Empowering People with Disabilities
    Oct 24, 2023 – 48:50
  • How Your Phone Is Turning You Into A Degenerate
    Oct 17, 2023 – 50:09
  • Post-Unpopular: Is Our Field Saved?
    Oct 10, 2023 – 52:28
  • Thoughts Leading Up to the Unpopular Conference
    Oct 6, 2023 – 45:52
  • Can People with Disabilities Understand Death?
    Aug 30, 2023 – 22:39
  • On the Loss of Siblings & Caring For Grieving Parents
    Aug 21, 2023 – 58:40
  • My Oppressed Guest Un-Cancels Me
    Aug 14, 2023 – 22:26
  • On Being A MILF In Modern Day
    Aug 7, 2023 – 54:41
  • Are There Men Who Exist That Don't Want Kids?
    Jul 24, 2023 – 01:08:28
  • "Do No Harm", A Temperature Check, & The Way Forward
    Jul 17, 2023 – 50:44
  • Dear Everyone...
    Jul 10, 2023 – 45:28
  • Merrill Returns to Discuss the Psychology of Mass Shooters
    Jun 20, 2023 – 58:55
  • Will Therapy Ever Be The Same? Cancelled Counselors RETURNS And Weighs In
    Jun 6, 2023 – 01:11:36
  • DESTROYING Our Neurotypical Privilege
    May 23, 2023 – 01:01:33
  • ADHD Dude Ryan Weighs In: Politicizing Parenting and Misconceptions About ADHD
    May 16, 2023 – 56:39
  • Is K-12 Education Dead? Will Reusch Schools Us--- Literally
    May 10, 2023 – 01:03:56
  • Sorry, I'm Just Not Your Stereotype: Husband and Wife Answer 21 Questions from Chat GPT
    May 2, 2023 – 55:29
  • Hostage Negotiator Scott Tillemma Talks Negotiation In Relationships, Negotiation in Business, and Negotiation... With Children?!?!
    Apr 25, 2023 – 57:57
  • The End of Trauma: Dr. George Bonanno Talks CPTSD, Trauma in Disabled Populations, and Misconceptions About the Overly-Used Phrase
    Apr 18, 2023 – 01:02:54
  • Dr. Merrill Winston: Compassion Is In Fashion, and Trauma Is Trending!
    Apr 11, 2023 – 01:01:30
  • Solo Pod: Kayla Ruins Science
    Mar 28, 2023 – 47:20
  • The Kids Aren't Alright
    Mar 21, 2023 – 01:14:48
  • Body Positivity, Excessive Normalization, and the Ozempic Conundrum: A Panel!
    Mar 14, 2023 – 01:04:57
  • Dr. Matt Brodhead On the Michigan State Shooting, Chat GPT, and The Ivory Tower of Academia
    Mar 7, 2023 – 58:36
  • Kayla and Adam's Turn to Ruin Everything: Is Private Equity Making Us Sicker, Or Are WE Making Ourselves Sicker?
    Feb 28, 2023 – 01:01:22
  • The Modern Day Guide to Making Everything Racist
    Feb 21, 2023 – 01:03:15
  • A Couple of Non-Feminists Keeping Themselves Busy On Valentine's Day
    Feb 14, 2023 – 51:36
  • A Resignation Letter to Myself: Goodbye, Angry
    Feb 7, 2023 – 41:01
  • Part 2: Millennial-Hood, Jehovah's Witnesses As the Amish, and Kayla's Non-Daddy Issues
    Jan 31, 2023 – 50:49
  • Part 1: I'm A Millenial, Whose Parents Are Baby Boomers, and I Married A Gen-X-er
    Jan 26, 2023 – 54:51
  • A Former Social Justice Warrior Is No Longer Wide Awoke
    Jan 24, 2023 – 01:00:59
  • Spoon Theory, Marriage, and Neurodivergence, From a BCBA with Autism
    Jan 17, 2023 – 59:27
  • Can We Take A Joke?
    Jan 10, 2023 – 58:01
  • This Guy Left Me A Very Honest Review, So I Invited Him on the Podcast
    Jan 3, 2023 – 56:20
  • Love On the Spectrum's Kaelynn Parlow Schools Us
    Dec 27, 2022 – 47:38
  • Autism Supremacy, Neurodiversity, and 'Real Talk' with A Listener
    Dec 20, 2022 – 49:38
  • Dumb-Merica: What Have We Done?
    Dec 13, 2022 – 47:07
  • Mental Illness Appropriation: No, Self-Diagnosis Is Not Valid
    Dec 6, 2022 – 48:08
  • Kayla and Merrill Ruin Everything
    Nov 29, 2022 – 59:30
  • Behavioral Myopia and Leadership SNAFUs with Dr. Paul Gavoni
    Nov 22, 2022 – 01:07:33
  • ABA Mentorship on Disability As Identity, Blind Conformity to Popularity, and Daring to Be Clinically Unfashionable
    Nov 15, 2022 – 01:17:36
  • Part 2: Behavioral Observations Interviews The Angry Analyst
    Nov 8, 2022 – 57:15
  • Part 1: In Defense of Assholes, with Matt Cicoria
    Nov 1, 2022 – 01:02:07
  • Cancelled Counselors Talks the Cancel Culture War of Therapy
    Oct 25, 2022 – 01:05:51
  • A Few Good Men: Men's Mental Health Matters, Too
    Oct 18, 2022 – 45:14
  • The Wokenostic Statistical Manual-5: TikTok and Mental Health
    Oct 11, 2022 – 49:48
  • Dr. Merrill Winston On Divergently Compassionate Punishment and Tolerating Life
    Oct 4, 2022 – 01:14:37
  • Positive Practices, or Positively BS? An Inside Look at the Safe Space
    Sep 27, 2022 – 46:08
  • Neurodiversity and ABA: The Great Divide?
    Sep 20, 2022 – 47:49
  • Welcome to Unorthodox. with the Angry Behavior Analyst
    Sep 20, 2022 – 00:59
Recent Reviews
  • Meedeeee
    Far right rhetoric
    Host claims to seek the truth, but unless you wanna be fed far right dog poo, this ain’t it. Also, the infamous may 10th episode. Host and guests claimed that the conversation needed to be had but fail to understand why a majority of people, specifically other BCBAs, educators, parents, and those with disabilities are upset: 1) Laughing at asking the question. If this is an important and serious topic, why the laughter? 2) When encountering not one, but possibly hundreds of people upset at what you said, your approach was to tell them they had no right to be upset, or that being upset did not mean they were correct, or whatever else the host said on her platform. Instead of coming from a place of TRUE curiosity and wanting to understand others (as host claims she does), she instead cried victim and claimed she was being “bullied” or “canceled.” Had you said what you said on your podcast at the beginning, maybe more people would have understood you or cared to have a further conversation. And it’s okay to take some time to process, and find your words. But at no point were you actually quiet. You continued to spit your n*sty rhetoric. You think you’re having important or difficult discussions. But your delivery is obviously terrible. You don’t get to decide that - your audience does. Fix your delivery and maybe more will care to listen and take you seriously.
  • Jo.Ro.
    Yikes
    I listened to the May 10th episode after seeing Kayla claim that the critiques were taken out of context. Unfortunately, the episode did not make the podcasters appear any better than the short clip that’s been circling the internet. In fact, I think it made them all appear worse. The speakers lacked careful analysis and made assumptions throughout the episode. As others have mentioned, they shared that discussion regarding the possibility of eugenics should be had. Either the speakers supper eugenics or are ineffective communicators and unintentionally normalized eugenics. In any case, the rhetoric is dangerous. The whole episode is filled with far-right dog whistles. I do not recommend this podcast, specifically, the May 10th episode.
  • KFox89
    Disturbing Eugenics Comments
    The conversation surrounding the topic of whether or not to kill disabled people was beyond sickening to listen to. Kayla Perry needs to lose her BCBA certification. Disgusting.
  • Artful Agenda
    Breath of Fresh Air
    I love this podcast and look forward to it every week. Listening to the honest clear discussions about the relevant topics in the field as practitioners! It’s so nice to hear intelligent conversations to expand our understanding.
  • Youngblood500
    Unorthodox or just presenting another side or information?
    The term unorthodox implies contrary to what is usual, traditional, or accepted. It is normally used to defy orthodox practice or tradition. Having listened to a number of episodes ranging from transgendered people to mental health it appears that this podcast is “traditional” at best. Often the tone is that of one generation complaining about another generation. I almost laughed out loud when the host started on a rant about “kids these days and how they don’t have the x, y, or z skill because they didn’t have x,y,z hardship like I had!”. The speaker often equates transgendered girls to nothing more than social contagion or being susceptible to influence by social media. The sourcing of this claim came from a poorly vetted book, based on debunked research which was highly influenced by selection/sampling bias. The host uses the DSM-5 and the data in there and concludes that the increase in transgenderism must be based on social media. Ignoring that the broader scientific mental health community (ACA, AMA, APA, etc) for over 10 years has been describing the hardships and high rates of suicide or violence faced by people who may be transgendered. By the end of the episode I was more convinced that the host was conclusion shopping rather than engaged in active inquiry and skepticism. The sourcing of this podcast seems to be a retelling of Joe Rogan, Candace Owen, Jordon Peterson, or whatever ever right wing talking head the speaker may find who happens to agree with her point of view. I initially gave two stars because I think the episode on logical fallacies was of interest. I tend to agree with the speaker on things like neuro-diversity and trauma informed care. I think we need to be critical of such labels or people who claim to practice techniques using these labels because they are poorly defined and have no measurable criteria to base the practice on. After sitting down and discussing points of view with Kayla it was refreshing to have a conversation and to focus on what we agree on. I may have been rather unfair with my initial rating. I may not agree with all the points Kayla is trying to get across but understand her desire to create dialogue and understanding between people.
  • angrySLP
    Honesty finally
    I love this podcast. The host is bright, witty and most importantly tackles hot topic, divisive issues openly and honestly. I nod throughout her episodes, because she has the confidence and courage to say out loud what I feel so many of us are afraid to acknowledge and voice ourselves. I’m an SLP and a mother, and I really worry about these movements that have a lot of social credit (neurodiversity and gender affirming practice/care), particularly when applied generally across whole groups of people, when these movements are at best, misguided, and at worst, malevolent. The host doesn’t claim or reveal herself to be of any particular political affiliation, and those who try to somehow discredit her by attributing her comments/stance to political personalities are just the sort of people who need to listen to her the most. Listen and look past labels and use your own critical thinking to judge the merits of the claims presented.
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