Law and Legitimacy

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Law, politics, crime, and culture—in a word, "conflict". If you have trouble telling the good guys from the bad guys, Law and Legitimacy is your podcast. Norm Pattis is a trial and appellate lawyer focused on criminal defense and constitutional rights. Norm is also a long-time newspaper columnist and the owner of one of New England's oldest bookstores. A contrarian by nature, he believes that no group is quite so frightening as a self-righteous mob. His objective? To make you think. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy.

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Recent Episodes
  • Season Finale — A Farewell and an Expression of Thanks from Norm and Mike
    Jul 10, 2024 – 31:20
  • Policing Public Libraries, Assange Pleas Guilty & SCOTUS on Second Amendment
    Jun 25, 2024 – 44:01
  • Tesla Over the Cliff, Extinction Rebellion Protests the PGA, SCOTUS Predictions
    Jun 24, 2024 – 33:55
  • Proof & the Rule of Law, State Bar Association's Message & Norm's USA Essay
    Jun 19, 2024 – 46:43
  • Alex Jones' Online Accounts to be Seized? Lil' Woody Copeland & Alito on 'Godliness'
    Jun 14, 2024 – 38:50
  • Garland Whines in WaPo Piece, the Brian Steel Saga & More Writings Out of Nashville
    Jun 13, 2024 – 44:38
  • Trump Letter to Merchan: Remove Gag, Divisive Garland Hearing & Vermont Foster Family Lawsuit
    Jun 5, 2024 – 40:39
  • Aftermath of Trump Verdict, Whither Infowars & SCOTUS Rejects Shroyer Petition
    Jun 4, 2024 – 34:37
  • American History: Trump — The Canary in the Legitimacy Coal Mine
    May 31, 2024 – 50:22
  • Charges Dropped Against Scottie, Justice Alito's Letter & Jury Instructions in Trump
    May 30, 2024 – 38:27
  • Vivek's Buzzfeed Campaign, Trump Closing Arguments & Live Q&A
    May 29, 2024 – 50:04
  • Trump Trial, Norm's Appellate Win & Sotomayor's Tears
    May 28, 2024 – 47:23
  • Trump v. Jalapeño Jack: Mar-a-Lago Showdown & Rashada-Napier NIL Lawsuit
    May 23, 2024 – 36:07
  • Trump Defense Team Rests, Scottie Scheffler's Arrest & Jack Smith's Lethal Force Problem
    May 22, 2024 – 51:57
  • Closing Arguments in Trump, Norm Cancelled (Again) & Self-Checkout Bans
    May 20, 2024 – 35:54
  • Trump and Trial Judges, Bans on Lab-Grown Meat & the TikTok Lawsuit
    May 15, 2024 – 41:26
  • Michael Cohen's Testimony, Elon Musks $6B Legal Bill & Smerconish's Commencement Speech
    May 14, 2024 – 35:37
  • Virginia School Board on Confederate Names, Asheville Reparations & Civil Asset Forfeiture
    May 10, 2024 – 41:52
  • Fani Willis Disqual Reaches Appeals Court, TikTok v. Garland & the Exclusionary Rule
    May 9, 2024 – 39:28
  • Trump Documents Trial Delayed, Competing Noncompetes & the High School Heckler's Veto
    May 8, 2024 – 45:00
  • Trump Contempt Again, Christian Nationalism & FTC and the Comity Principle
    May 7, 2024 – 39:52
  • Norm Recaps Viva Appearance, Hope Hicks Takes the Stand in Trump & WSJ Opinion
    May 6, 2024 – 35:39
  • Trump Violates Gag Order, DEA Weighs THC Scheduling & Campus Speech Monitors
    May 1, 2024 – 45:20
  • OAN Retracts Cohen Statements, Charlotte Officers Slain & Columbia University Ground Zero
    Apr 30, 2024 – 42:55
  • Weinstein, Campus 'Hate Speech' Unrest & Biden's Capital Gains Equity Project
    Apr 29, 2024 – 35:54
  • Trump Trial: Opening Statements and Press Gagged & Columbia Cancels Classes to 'Reset'
    Apr 22, 2024 – 35:47
  • Abbot and the 1st Amendment, Fischer Arguments Recap & NC Bar Owners Get Appellate Win
    Apr 17, 2024 – 41:25
  • Jury Selection in Trump, Is Texas' Abbott Right on Speech? & SCOTUS Takes Up J6 Case
    Apr 16, 2024 – 40:24
  • Trump Risks Contempt Behind Remarks Aimed at Cohen & SCOTUS Weighs J6 Obstruction
    Apr 15, 2024 – 33:31
  • Will Trump See Prison? Fatal Vegas Lawyer Shooting, East Palestine Settlement & More
    Apr 10, 2024 – 38:45
  • Strippers Bill of Rights, an American Spiritual Awakening & Trump-Proofing Government
    Apr 5, 2024 – 36:27
  • Jalapeño Jack & Writs of Mandamus, VDare v. Letitia James & Norm's Voir Dire Stories
    Apr 4, 2024 – 34:59
  • Trump: "Hold onto Your Britches", RFK Jr. Calls Biden Bigger Threat, Hunter Cries Bias
    Apr 3, 2024 – 30:35
  • #FTX SBF Sentenced to 25 Years & Trump's Fundraising Paradigm: Bibles and Social Media
    Apr 1, 2024 – 39:20
  • Good Friday Reading, the Fate of John Eastman & Abbott Strikes at Speech in Texas
    Mar 29, 2024 – 39:41
  • Receiving Hateful Emails, the Jimmy Hoffa Rule, and 'Khanian' Labor Culture
    Mar 28, 2024 – 35:00
  • RFK Jr. Chooses Nicole Shanahan for VP, SCOTUS Protection & Non-Competes in Beer and Beyond
    Mar 27, 2024 – 40:36
  • Trump Bond Reduced, Net Worth Soars, Tax Evasion Charges for Milton Grimes & More
    Mar 26, 2024 – 36:22
  • Welcome to Law and Legitimacy, Mommy Blogger Diaries & Trump's Monday
    Mar 25, 2024 – 34:11
  • Texas School Fund Pulls Billions from Blackrock, the Problem of Consciousness & More
    Mar 22, 2024 – 33:17
  • Texas Border Bill Chaos, Washington State Eliminates Bar Exam, Truth Social is Down
    Mar 20, 2024 – 36:20
  • Roommate Shooting Over Cats, Trump Appeals McAfee's Fani Ruling & SCOTUS 1A Suits
    Mar 19, 2024 – 39:19
  • Fani Leaves Wade Behind, New Hoax Drops: Trump "Bloodbath" & a New Florida Man Saga
    Mar 18, 2024 – 33:47
  • Trump's Mar-a-Lago Defense, Norm's MSNBC Interview & Trump Charges in Georgia
    Mar 14, 2024 – 34:39
  • Alex Jones on HBO, Aaron Rodgers as VP1? Mark Cuban Gets It Right re: TikTok & More
    Mar 13, 2024 – 32:40
  • Biden vs. 16th Amendment, New York City vs. Pizza Ovens, TikTok vs. Congress & More
    Mar 12, 2024 – 32:48
  • Trump's First Criminal Case Set for Trial, The Pandemic Four Years Later & Appointments Clause
    Mar 11, 2024 – 31:26
  • Biden Says US-Gaza Port, Congress Votes for TikTok to Divest, SEC Climate Rule & Some Jalapeño Jack
    Mar 8, 2024 – 39:01
  • Baldwin Armorer Convicted in Set Killing, Biden's Flying Migrants & SEC Publishes Emissions Rule
    Mar 7, 2024 – 33:39
  • Trump Dominates Super Tuesday, Selective Perjury in Bragg, Texas Immigration Law & More
    Mar 6, 2024 – 38:12
Recent Reviews
  • LBOinFL
    Relevant & elevated discussions
    I enjoy listening to the in-depth discussions and opinions on current court cases, applications of the law and the politics of the day that are offered here. I’m interested in seeing this podcast grow because I like to hear the knowledgeable analyses on important issues so that I can form an opinion rather than just be brainwashed by the political parties and the mainstream media. This gives me something to think about. But, I’m no fan of Michigan football. Go Gators!
  • all nick names are taken lol
    Great Duo!
    Norm and Mike are as intelligent as they are articulate! Topics discussed are on point and interesting! Law students would be wise to watch them and listen! They distill the most complicated current events to a level of understanding that non law people could understand. They are funny and entertaining too!!
  • n eg
    Two knowledgeable Lawyers
    Mike and Norm do a great job discussing constitutional laws issues in a quick and understandable for way for laymen. Norm’s berth of knowledge is amazing and actually makes you think lawyers are ok people.
  • dtdrummr
    Bigly not good!
    Don’t take legal advice from a podcast. Unless of course you have a billion dollars you’d like to give away to people you hate.
  • GoogleusMaximus
    Suspended
    Would you listen to a podcast by the lawyer of Alex Jones, now suspended for 6 months?
  • creusam
    Skip this
    If you want a real understanding of the law, check out Opening Arguments. If you just want to know more about the Alex Jones lawsuit, go to Knowledge Fight and listen to their Formulaic Objections episodes. Now go to bed Jordan.
  • No Nickname Required, Okay
    MUST-LISTEN-TO Podcast for Any Aspiring Lawyer
    Listening to Professor Pattis is like being in the pre-law class in college that your alma mater never offered. The Law & Legitimacy podcast covers "The Law". Full stop. Most legal podcasts include heavy doses of politics to expand their audience. Norm sticks to The Law.
  • Watchtower82
    Stick to standup Norm
    Skip this podcast. Subscribe and support Knowledge fight instead.
  • JM4CK
    This Law Talking dude isn’t that smart
    Listen to Opening Arguments instead. At least they drill down to the law and actually explain it.
  • Jezzaismyhomeboy
    Absolute joke of a human
    The man fell asleep in court during trial. He looks and behaves like a cartoon version of a used car salesman. Rats nest of a hairdo and all. F this guy - what a joke.
  • gr33np
    a ridiculous man
    norm is insufferable- the quality of his podcast is subpar at best - can’t imagine who on earth would enjoy this
  • Skept_Guy
    Wish I could give zero stars, trash
    Unfunny “comedian” lawyer with nothing interesting to say. Listen to Opening Arguments instead
  • Apple iPhone 4 user iOS 7
    Great topics for non lawyers.
    Top five podcasts ever.
  • mkh23
    5 Stars
    5 stars only because positive vibes only.
  • Deb Mariano
    Interesting!
    Great topics!
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